Collapse, Not Computation · claim ORCH-C069 · Mechanism rung · Objective reduction as physics

Penrose and Diósi disagree on how the collapse happens — smoothly, suddenly, or some other way.

Not featured in the current editionAI-extractedorigin: split of ORCH-C052 (report 2026-09-11-report-orch-or-114458)

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[p. 4] (Sec. V, Closing remarks), arXiv PDF 2111.04604v2

“We disagree on how this happens, smoothly, suddenly, or some other way”

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Penrose and Diósi agree on the lifetime and disagree on the dynamics

what the source states: Closing the article, Diósi writes that both agree the cat should collapse after a time of order ħ/E_Δ, but "We disagree on how this happens, smoothly, suddenly, or some other way", and names gravity-related collapse dynamics conserving energy and momentum as the hard remaining task.
what we infer: The rate conjecture and its dynamics are separable, and only the latter has been experimentally bounded so far — which is exactly why the physics rung is unresolved rather than refuted, and why 'less specified than the model that was tested' understates what is actually missing.
limitations: A statement of position, not a proof that no such dynamics exists.

Lajos Diósi (2022)AI-verified citation

an honest empty state

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