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Cluster · 1 line of comparison · 1 without an established route · 1 motif family · 2 registered objects

Olmec La Venta

Identity still open

1 separate line of comparison join these two traditions in this collection. 1 of them has no established route.

Motif families: Serpents & composite creatures

Cultural context

Olmec La Venta

This edition represents La Venta with one monument; it cannot estimate variation across Olmec imagery.

Registered dated episodes: 900 BCE to 400 BCE.

  • La Venta · Monument 19c. 900–400 BCE · site context · site context
Cultural context

Identity still open

Unresolved records stay discoverable without invented cultural attribution.

No numerical episode date is yet registered here.

  • Serpent montage · mixed sourcesDate unresolved · unresolved
Line 01 · Research lead

When does a serpent become the same serpent?

A widely shared creature needs a precise comparison.

La Venta Monument 19: seated figure inside a serpent
La Venta · Monument 19La Venta
The supplied comparison montage of serpent forms
Serpent montage · mixed sourcesPlace unresolved
What appears to correspond
  • Elongated, curving creatures recur in the assembled presentations.
What differs or remains uncertain
  • Some component images are unlocated and undated.
  • Horns, feathers, beaks and crest-like forms should not be merged into one binary feature.
Transmission check

Transmission not yet assessed

The comparison is not yet identified or dated well enough to exclude ordinary transmission, later borrowing or an image-selection effect.

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Keep in the frame

What would move this cluster forward?

Collected comparisons accumulate; they do not compound into proof. Each line still needs its own dated sequence.

  • Split the montage into independently sourced surfaces.
  • Document local serpent traditions before testing a shared bundle of features.
Follow the evidence

Sources & scope

Provisional editorial records with no independent specialist sign-off. Review stages describe how far sources were checked, not the probability of a historical connection.

  1. claim · Bruce Fenton

    Preserved Fenton comparison thread

    The project retains the supplied thread with known gaps, images and later source checks.

  2. research · INAH

    La Venta Monument 19 in El Tlacuache 1199

    Page 18, figure 17: figure within a serpent and a possible copal bag. This does not establish the meaning of distant handled forms.

  3. project · Deep Memory

    Supplied-image identity register

    Preserves captions, uncertainties and supplied images. A social caption is not an independent archaeological identification.